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	<title>Comments on: A comment on the Gears of War 2 map codes</title>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-5202</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Any news on...

&quot;We are in the process of seeking alternative methods of delivering this content as we recognise the value this content to our local customers. In addition we remain committed to bringing Live to SA but unfortunately there is no update with regards to a launch date at this point. We appreciate your understanding at this time as we seek an alternative solution to this issue.&quot;

After two months, is it safe to say that that was just a lie to appease the masses and hope that everyone forget about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Any news on&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;We are in the process of seeking alternative methods of delivering this content as we recognise the value this content to our local customers. In addition we remain committed to bringing Live to SA but unfortunately there is no update with regards to a launch date at this point. We appreciate your understanding at this time as we seek an alternative solution to this issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>After two months, is it safe to say that that was just a lie to appease the masses and hope that everyone forget about it?</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4497</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like such a prat right now. I know about 15 different guys, who all have an xbox 360. All of them have a flashed box, while I sit with an unflashed box. While they keep telling me how silly I am, for not flashing my box, I defend it with comments about my box being legal, and what not. I also point out that I have the potential to own more content than they do. Well here is the tally so far.
They have over 100 different games, while I have 18
They get games before they are ever sold here
Each game costs them less than R20 (I pay R500+)
They had the new dash before me
They all have the maps on gears 2, while I (who paid over R600 for mine) do not.
What an idiot I am, for trying to play it legal, and pay Microsoft for everything I own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like such a prat right now. I know about 15 different guys, who all have an xbox 360. All of them have a flashed box, while I sit with an unflashed box. While they keep telling me how silly I am, for not flashing my box, I defend it with comments about my box being legal, and what not. I also point out that I have the potential to own more content than they do. Well here is the tally so far.<br />
They have over 100 different games, while I have 18<br />
They get games before they are ever sold here<br />
Each game costs them less than R20 (I pay R500+)<br />
They had the new dash before me<br />
They all have the maps on gears 2, while I (who paid over R600 for mine) do not.<br />
What an idiot I am, for trying to play it legal, and pay Microsoft for everything I own.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Nicholson</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4476</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Nicholson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marc: If you look on the outside of the box there is no mention of Xbox LIVE, which means that your purchasing decision was not a result of the product advertising Xbox LIVE functionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marc: If you look on the outside of the box there is no mention of Xbox LIVE, which means that your purchasing decision was not a result of the product advertising Xbox LIVE functionality.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4475</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I look into my GOW2 collecters edition box, it says LIVE on the manual and both CDs. Is there some mistake there? Are they not misleading me? Should I speak to the Advertising Standards Authority? Microsoft just give me my golden lancer and map pack and stop coming up with nonsense excuses as to why they were excluded. Otherwise drop the price... or hell, DO NOT SELL THE COLLECTORS EDITION IN SA if there is no difference to the normal edition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I look into my GOW2 collecters edition box, it says LIVE on the manual and both CDs. Is there some mistake there? Are they not misleading me? Should I speak to the Advertising Standards Authority? Microsoft just give me my golden lancer and map pack and stop coming up with nonsense excuses as to why they were excluded. Otherwise drop the price&#8230; or hell, DO NOT SELL THE COLLECTORS EDITION IN SA if there is no difference to the normal edition!</p>
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		<title>By: Osculim</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4261</link>
		<dc:creator>Osculim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good and well but i can promise you if you bought gears of war 2 for windows at a later stage you will get all the codes in the box even if live isn&#039;t available here and with games for live you connect to the same network. They must not come with this unsuported live bull. They have a choice to or not to include it they chose not to its as simple as that...We got screwed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good and well but i can promise you if you bought gears of war 2 for windows at a later stage you will get all the codes in the box even if live isn&#8217;t available here and with games for live you connect to the same network. They must not come with this unsuported live bull. They have a choice to or not to include it they chose not to its as simple as that&#8230;We got screwed</p>
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		<title>By: SauRoN</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4226</link>
		<dc:creator>SauRoN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well all of a sudden I&#039;m wondering if Arcade games are advertised as part of the Xbox 360 experience?

For the first time I only now realised that Arcade games are completely dependent on having Xbox Live.

Let me just go have a look at my Arcade&#039;s box quick...

Clever bastards!

The Arcade&#039;s box makes absolutely no mention of Arcade games other than the free ones included on the disc.

However it does state &quot;1 Month Xbox Live Gold included&quot; which is a lie, since it technically doesn&#039;t just &quot;work&quot; out of the box.

Also the disc of Arcade games basically says that Xbox Live is required to &quot;unlock&quot; the Trial games, which also means we are getting sold half a product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well all of a sudden I&#8217;m wondering if Arcade games are advertised as part of the Xbox 360 experience?</p>
<p>For the first time I only now realised that Arcade games are completely dependent on having Xbox Live.</p>
<p>Let me just go have a look at my Arcade&#8217;s box quick&#8230;</p>
<p>Clever bastards!</p>
<p>The Arcade&#8217;s box makes absolutely no mention of Arcade games other than the free ones included on the disc.</p>
<p>However it does state &#8220;1 Month Xbox Live Gold included&#8221; which is a lie, since it technically doesn&#8217;t just &#8220;work&#8221; out of the box.</p>
<p>Also the disc of Arcade games basically says that Xbox Live is required to &#8220;unlock&#8221; the Trial games, which also means we are getting sold half a product.</p>
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		<title>By: doobiwan</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4221</link>
		<dc:creator>doobiwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree with you Craig,

&quot;Gears of War 2&quot; has been advertised internationally as including the map pack for first time buyers with no exclusions or omissions noted. 

The &#039;correct&#039; answer would have been to include the code but block Local users from downloading the content. That meets both the advertised features, and the ASA guidelines as well. Those codes are a valuable commodity and local users are entitled to them, even if it&#039;s only to sell to someone in a region that can use them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree with you Craig,</p>
<p>&#8220;Gears of War 2&#8243; has been advertised internationally as including the map pack for first time buyers with no exclusions or omissions noted. </p>
<p>The &#8216;correct&#8217; answer would have been to include the code but block Local users from downloading the content. That meets both the advertised features, and the ASA guidelines as well. Those codes are a valuable commodity and local users are entitled to them, even if it&#8217;s only to sell to someone in a region that can use them.</p>
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		<title>By: J4NR1K</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4215</link>
		<dc:creator>J4NR1K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The typical corporate gobblydook speak. Should have know. The wall of silence around Arcade users for NXE is also very ominous. They have Live in India and NZ but not here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The typical corporate gobblydook speak. Should have know. The wall of silence around Arcade users for NXE is also very ominous. They have Live in India and NZ but not here?</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Xbox Citizen</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4213</link>
		<dc:creator>Concerned Xbox Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a corporate response for something that has been an issue since launch. This goes further than just the Gears codes. This is a support problem. We don&#039;t get Live and have been getting these types of responses as a carrot on a stick to shut us up for that as well.
I will believe that they care when I see them being PRO-active.

Sites like xbox-360.co.za does more for the 360 community than they have ever done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a corporate response for something that has been an issue since launch. This goes further than just the Gears codes. This is a support problem. We don&#8217;t get Live and have been getting these types of responses as a carrot on a stick to shut us up for that as well.<br />
I will believe that they care when I see them being PRO-active.</p>
<p>Sites like xbox-360.co.za does more for the 360 community than they have ever done.</p>
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		<title>By: Burns ZA</title>
		<link>http://craign.net/2008/11/14/a-comment-on-the-gears-of-war-2-map-codes/comment-page-1/#comment-4209</link>
		<dc:creator>Burns ZA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate speak. It&#039;s an unsatisfactory answer to an appalling situation. South African gamers should have been notified of the embargo before the game was shipped. Local stores should have been able to inform their customers that Limited Edition games would be sold at full price but without extras. 
Firstly, customers with the LE version of the game should be able to return them (if they so wish) to the distributors/stores to receive a standard edition of the game and the difference in price refunded to them. 
This smacks of dishonesty and someone somewhere needs to take responsibility and ensure that in future systems are in place to inform the South African customer of similar situations before they fork out their hard earned cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporate speak. It&#8217;s an unsatisfactory answer to an appalling situation. South African gamers should have been notified of the embargo before the game was shipped. Local stores should have been able to inform their customers that Limited Edition games would be sold at full price but without extras.<br />
Firstly, customers with the LE version of the game should be able to return them (if they so wish) to the distributors/stores to receive a standard edition of the game and the difference in price refunded to them.<br />
This smacks of dishonesty and someone somewhere needs to take responsibility and ensure that in future systems are in place to inform the South African customer of similar situations before they fork out their hard earned cash.</p>
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